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In case people wanted a 2nd chance to object to a compulsory user account age recording + reporting law (the only people who objected in #California that I have found being only interested in 'gratis'
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Another 2nd chance to tell legislators that the mechanisms that we have inherited from #Unix, and used in loads of #FreeSoftware operating systems from #NetBSD to #Tribblix, do not have date of birth/age fields for user accounts, is #Illinois, where HB5511 is the very same text as #California's, too.
https://my.ilga.gov/Legislation/BillStatus?DocTypeID=HB&DocNum=5511&GAID=18&LegID=167486
It really does seem at this point that this is model legislation.
Sponsors in Illionois are Jennifer Gong-Gershowitz, Margaret Croke, Janet Yang, Rohr, Kimberly Du Buclet, Natalie A. Manley, Angelica Guerrero-Cuellar, Rick Ryan, Michelle Mussman, Martha Deuter and Tracy Katz Muhl.
The bill is in the judiciary–civil committee as of yesterday.
It was introduced last month, 1 day after it was introduced in Colorado. I wonder in what other states it has just turned up.
A lobby organization handing pre-drafted bills to multiple sets of legislators is not unknown.
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#CaliforniaLaw #USLaw #IllinoisLaw #FreeSoftware #AgeVerification
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See the widely publicized announcement by the developer of #MidnightBSD, which caused a lot of people, including me, into looking at the actual law.
https://nitter.net/midnightbsd/status/2027101491211718765
The only people concerned with free software, apparently, as the bill made its way through the #California legislature, were Oakland Privacy, and they were only interested in 'gratis' free software on the Google and Apple Stores and the impacts on its development.
The various committee analyses are on that legislature page, and they give the objectors's objections. I have yet to find a mention of BSDs, Linux-based operating systems, or even Unix.
Goodness knows what #IBM is going to do about #RHEL and #RPM. Clearly they completely missed a very important lobbying opportunity. I wonder if the IBM legal people know about this even yet.
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It concerns #AlpineLinux the same as it concerns every other Linux-based operating system that has a package management utility that talks to a public WWW site.
As I said at
https://mastodonapp.uk/@JdeBP/116156019252249071 and as
@RunxiYu has also said, the statute as written covers all such systems. (It's an Act now, by the way, not a Bill.) Alpine Linux has a covered application store.
Here, for example, is what 'publicly available internet website' apk as the 'software application' uses to 'facilitate the download' of the third-party rustc 'application' from the 'store' in Alpine Linux on the aforementioned #mainframes used by the aforementioned naughty 16-year-olds in #California:
https://dl-cdn.alpinelinux.org/alpine/v3.23/main/s390x/
Yes, #CaliforniaLaw as written is this expansive. Yes, the legislators did not even consider how the BSDs and Linux-based operating systems work. None of the objectors apparently even mentioned how these work.
#rust #USLaw #AgeVerification #GDPR #FreeSoftware #Unix
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The definitions are broad, so to quite an extent they would. There are users, who have accounts, on general purpose computers, and run applications.
The only hope for #mainframes seems to be that they likely don't have things that fit the definition of a 'covered application store'.
But they might; especially if the mainframe is nowadays running a Linux-based operating system.
http://linuxvm.org/info/distros.html
#Debian and #Ubuntu have package repositories for s390x, for example. Such a repository is a 'publicly available internet website […] that distributes and facilitates the download of applications'.
Here's one way how the naughty 16-year-olds in #California would download rustc onto such a mainframe with no #AgeVerification, for example:
https://packages.debian.org/trixie/s390x/rustc/download
#CaliforniaLaw #USLaw #FreeSoftware #rust
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I do not know the ins and ous of USA Law but perhaps someone on here does - I'm wondering if once Trump is out of Office, can the State claim the unathorized monies he's sancioned from his personal/co
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@lindasgoluppiart@mastodonapp.uk As a legal question, keeping the politics out of it, this is actually a tricky one. It involves, amongst other things, a part of the U.S.A. Constitution known as the E
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Other unprecedented judicial activism by the Roberts Court has additionally held that the scope of "official acts" by the POTUS incorporates almost everything that xe does. And there are doctrines of both sovereign immunity and executive immunity for official actions. Nixon tried to rely upon them.
Per the Roberts Court, and quite contrary to the stated contemporary intent of people like #AlexanderHamilton as well as post-Watergate lawmaking, the POTUS now has the same immunity as King Charles 3.
So there's a question of most of the President's activity, 'personal' or no, actually being covered by immunity and being wholly unaddressable anywhere within the U.S.A. judicial branch, even after xe has left office.
#USLaw #ConstitutionalLaw #EmolumentsClause #Federalist69
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As a legal question, keeping the politics out of it, this is actually a tricky one.
It involves, amongst other things, a part of the U.S.A. Constitution known as the Emoluments Clauses (Article 1 §9 ¶7 and Article 2 §1 ¶7).
These have had very little testing in the courts, most people in history having avoided issues of foreign/domestic bribery and corruption; and current indications are that the Roberts Court, which is one of the most judicially active #SCOTUS es in history, will hold that no-one actually has standing to sue under the Emoluments Clauses, rendering it effectively defunct. It has already done this with other parts of the Constitution, so has form.
Other legal issues include one that seems bizarre to outsiders: there is actually an argument that people take seriously, that the President of the United States is not considered an officer of the U.S.A., and the Constitution only talks about officers.
#USLaw #ConstitutionalLaw #EmolumentsClause
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